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	<title>Comments on: Dell&#8217;s $1,304 Premium over Mac Pro</title>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well those Mac Pro systems aren&#039;t 3k anymore....they are now $4600 starting.  I wish they did keep the price down:( A couple things to point out in your quote however is the level of warranty given for the dell vs the mac and the graphics card difference.  

The dell warranty for the precision line up is pretty nice.  Next day repair on site with parts in hand.  I have used it before and it was very convenient.  The apple warranty is a little unclear about the on-site options.  It says it may service it on-site.

The graphics card is a quadro which are much more expensive than just regular consumer cards.  Overall I have to agree with Darrin.  We are still using plain old tyan pedestal workstations with a 939 dual core amd processors at 2ghz which were built for about 1k each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well those Mac Pro systems aren&#8217;t 3k anymore&#8230;.they are now $4600 starting.  I wish they did keep the price down:( A couple things to point out in your quote however is the level of warranty given for the dell vs the mac and the graphics card difference.  </p>
<p>The dell warranty for the precision line up is pretty nice.  Next day repair on site with parts in hand.  I have used it before and it was very convenient.  The apple warranty is a little unclear about the on-site options.  It says it may service it on-site.</p>
<p>The graphics card is a quadro which are much more expensive than just regular consumer cards.  Overall I have to agree with Darrin.  We are still using plain old tyan pedestal workstations with a 939 dual core amd processors at 2ghz which were built for about 1k each.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to #9, add mono (http://www.mono-project.com/) to the discussion (runs .net on a Mac).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to #9, add mono (<a href="http://www.mono-project.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mono-project.com/</a>) to the discussion (runs .net on a Mac).</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 18:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why doesn&#039;t OnTime run on a Mac?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why doesn&#8217;t OnTime run on a Mac?</p>
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		<title>By: Darrin</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe my developers are deprived, but I&#039;ve never spent $2,850 for a developer&#039;s machine.  Admittedly, none of them have ever had the opportunity to work on a machine with dual quad-core procs or a 500GB hard drive.  More horsepower is always better, but my developers have no need for 500GB worth of storage.  Most of my developers prefer notebooks.  For example, the last dev machine I bought was a Lattitude D630, with a single Core 2 Duo T7500, 2.20GHz proc, 2GB of RAM, an 80GB hard drive, a port replicator, premium support for 3yrs, and a 9-cell upgraded battery.  I paid $1,454.95 plus tax.  It&#039;s not equivalent in terms of horse power, but I&#039;m not hearing any complaints either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe my developers are deprived, but I&#8217;ve never spent $2,850 for a developer&#8217;s machine.  Admittedly, none of them have ever had the opportunity to work on a machine with dual quad-core procs or a 500GB hard drive.  More horsepower is always better, but my developers have no need for 500GB worth of storage.  Most of my developers prefer notebooks.  For example, the last dev machine I bought was a Lattitude D630, with a single Core 2 Duo T7500, 2.20GHz proc, 2GB of RAM, an 80GB hard drive, a port replicator, premium support for 3yrs, and a 9-cell upgraded battery.  I paid $1,454.95 plus tax.  It&#8217;s not equivalent in terms of horse power, but I&#8217;m not hearing any complaints either.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid Shojaee</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamid Shojaee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, are you suggesting you purchased a comparable system for $850 ($2,000 less than Mac Pro)? If so, you should share the details so we may all benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, are you suggesting you purchased a comparable system for $850 ($2,000 less than Mac Pro)? If so, you should share the details so we may all benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid Shojaee</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamid Shojaee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thom, as a .net developer, you should have an MSDN subscription which gets you licenses to all MS OSes, VM, etc. for that developer. In fact, the Dell including a Vista license is a complete waste for most developers because most MS developers already own appropriate licenses, yet they are forced to pay for it again with the purchase of a new machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thom, as a .net developer, you should have an MSDN subscription which gets you licenses to all MS OSes, VM, etc. for that developer. In fact, the Dell including a Vista license is a complete waste for most developers because most MS developers already own appropriate licenses, yet they are forced to pay for it again with the purchase of a new machine.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh. I priced a dell refurb machine for about $2000 less than the Mac Pro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh. I priced a dell refurb machine for about $2000 less than the Mac Pro.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom Lamb</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a .NET developer, I was wondering did you add in the Virtual Machine and Vista OS for each developer so that they can still do their development in a Windows-based .NET world (or at least their testing)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a .NET developer, I was wondering did you add in the Virtual Machine and Vista OS for each developer so that they can still do their development in a Windows-based .NET world (or at least their testing)?</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid Shojaee</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamid Shojaee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexis, you are right, I did miss the 3-years of warranty. That adds $249 to the price of the Mac Pro, making the difference closer to $1050. However, the 800 Mhz memory and 1600 Mhz bus upgrades on the Dell add far more to the Dell price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexis, you are right, I did miss the 3-years of warranty. That adds $249 to the price of the Mac Pro, making the difference closer to $1050. However, the 800 Mhz memory and 1600 Mhz bus upgrades on the Dell add far more to the Dell price.</p>
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		<title>By: Paolo Alexis Falcone</title>
		<link>http://www.axosoft.com/blog/2008/06/20/dells-1304-premium-over-mac-pro/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Paolo Alexis Falcone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you factor in your comparison the cost of Apple Care which would extend the warranty to 3 years, as with the Dell offering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you factor in your comparison the cost of Apple Care which would extend the warranty to 3 years, as with the Dell offering?</p>
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